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J.M.J.

A.M.D.G.

F.V.T.

Question Box

What About Homosexual Seminarians?

What About
Homosexual Seminarians?

Thank you for your questions and for reading the Question Box article of last month entitled:

"What Was It Like in the Roman Catholic Seminary BEFORE  All of the Many Changes Council Vatican II Made?"

The photograph, apparently of 2 "seminarians" kissing each other is disgusting - but it perfectly captures the ROT in the Satanic Vatican 2 church!

Regarding your question of WHY I did not:

"say even one word about homosexual seminarians?"

and your follow-up question:

"Are you trying to claim that there is no such thing?"

and your comment that:

"You are as bad as the Vatican, trying to cover up the whole mess!",

The answer to your first question:

"Why did you not say even one word about homosexual seminarians?"

is very simply that it had nothing to do with the original question which I answered.  That question was:

"What Was It Like in the Roman Catholic Seminary BEFORE All of the Many Changes Council Vatican II Made?"

The primary focus was "What Was It Like in the Roman Catholic Seminary BEFORE All of the Many Changes Council Vatican II Made?", NOT about anything else.

Part of the answer focused on the changes that were made at the very end of Synod Vatican 2, and after the end of Synod Vatican 2, in a Minor Roman Catholic Seminary.

But a good part of the answer focused on my own personal experiences in a Major Roman Catholic Seminary BEFORE Synod Vatican 2, followed by the list of very negative statitics concerning the "fruits" of the changes of Synod Vatican 2.

Apparently you missed the fact that I did make a reference to homosexuality in the Seminary insofar as my own personal experiences were concerned - it involved breaking one of the rules intended to prevent homosexual activity.

This had to do with the iron-clad rule that no Seminarian was ever permitted to enter into the private room (or cell, if you prefer) of any other Seminarian for any reason - the penalty for such a violation was automatic expulsion from the Seminary!

Actually, a Seminarian could not even as much as stand in the doorway of the private room of any other Seminarian!

I mentioned nothing else regarding homosexuality concerning Seminarians because when I was in the Seminary there was never even one instance of homosexuality - of which I am personally aware - in any Seminary where I was stationed, this includes the Novitiate, the Scholasticate, and also even the Theologate!

In other words, it was merely more than sufficient to mention the policy - the iron-clad rule - that forbade all acts of homosexuality which was simply exampled by the iron-clad rule which forbade any Seminarian from ever entering the private room of any other Seminarian for any reason under penalty of automatic and immediate expulsion.

Of course anything is possible, but I was never personally aware of any kind of homosexuality activity anywhere, not only in the Seminaries where I was stationed, but also in other Seminaries that I personally visited.  That was a   l o n g   time ago, so I do not remember the names of all of the Seminaries where I visited with other Seminarians in their own Seminaries.

Also, the same holds true for all of the Seminarians I personally knew at the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.  - and all of those in "Little Rome", as the area around CUA was called in those days.

The entire time I was in the Seminary, I only heard of one Seminarian who had been involved in homosexual activity - more precisely, a Seminarian had broken the strict rule of standing in the doorway of the private room of another Seminarian.

When his Superiors discovered this fact, this Seminarian was immediately kicked out of his Seminary!  In today's licentious society, that might sound very harsh or cruel or mean?  But since the "convention" of infiltrators into the church, a.k.a. Synod Vatican 2 - which agenda they totally controlled - look at what happened!  The floodgates of immorality opened wide!

Again, it was many, many ages ago, so I do not even remember which Seminary it was, except that it was one of the Seminaries in "Little Rome", it was NOT my Seminary, and this particular Seminary also had the very same iron-clad rules against homosexual activity as did my own Seminary - including not standing even in the doorway of the private room of another Seminarian.   All of the Seminarians knew the rules - no one could plead ignorance!

In those days - to the extent of my own personal knowledge and personal experiences - this iron-clad rule against homosexuals and their homosexual activities was not only in place in every Roman Catholic Seminary, it was also enforced!

However, the very fact that I had heard of only one Seminarian - in a different Seminary from mine - had been expelled for standing in the doorway of the private room of another Seminarian, what with the over 300 Religious Houses (most of them Seminaries) which were all very close to the CUA - and literally thousands of Seminarians, it seems to me this lone stastic proves how very rare it was back in those days for any Seminarian to be a homosexual and/or to be involved with homosexual activities or to even think about breaking the iron-clad rules to prevent even the shadow of any homosexual activity!

Your follow-up question is:

"Are you trying to claim that there is no such thing?"

The answer is, I have answered this subject of homosexual Seminarians and homosexual activities of said Seminarians based only upon my own personal experiences when I was in the Seminary.

That there were in fact homosexual Seminarians and homosexual activities of said Seminarians in various Seminaries is proven by what I said above about the one and only case of which I heard when I was in the Seminary.  But this case did not involve any Seminarian in any of the Seminaries in which I was stationed, nor did it involve any of the Seminaries in which I was stationed, but rather some other Seminary, the name of which I no longer remember because it happened so long ago!

Therefore, I have not before, nor do I now, claim - in any way - that there is no such thing as homosexual Seminarians and homosexual activities of said Seminarians in various Seminaries back in the days when I was in the Seminary.

As for the many decades which have elapsed since that time, based upon what I have heard from various Priests and Bishops, what I have read, and from the data that is on the internet, it is very clear that not only are there homosexual Seminarians and homosexual activities of said Seminarians that have been going on for who knows how long?, but also that this situation has escalated considerably since my years in the Seminary.

For example, about 20 years ago, I remember reading, in a "conservative", but quasi-independent, Vatican 2 church publication, an article about the terrible experience one Priest had when he returned to the Seminary in which he had studied for the Holy Priesthood.  The bottom line was that he discovered that his old Seminary had been "taken over" by homosexual Priest-teachers and by homosexual seminarians!

During his visit to this place, which he cut short for what should be obvious reasons?, he did come upon one non-homosexual seminarian who complained in a private meeting with this Priest who wrote this article, that not only was he the one and only non-homosexual seminarian there, but also that the policy of that seminary was to recruit ONLY homosexuals and that IF any non-homosexuals applied for entrance, they would be rejected!

He explained that the only reason why he had been accepted was because he had been a Seminarian there a number of years before they went 100% homosexual.  He had to take, for lack of a better term, what some might call "a leave of absence", due to some serious family matters that required his personal attention for about ten years or so.

After he had finished taking care of these family issues, he was allowed to return to the seminary to continue his studies - but he was trying to find another seminary to move to that was not 100% homosexual, and he was having a very difficult time trying to find even one!
Unfortunately, and perhaps there are some exceptions to this???, the reverse is true today for seminaries and seminarians!

In other words, UNLESS an applicant is a professed homosexual, that applicant will NOT be permitted to enter a Vatican 2 church seminary???!!!

Therefore, I am not trying to "cover up" anything!

However, I do not have first-hand knowledge of what has been happening in seminaries since Synod Vatican 2.  Hence, I am unable to speak on this subject in terms of personal experiences.

But the internet seems to be a rich source for data on this subject, and anyone interested in what is happening today should be able to do an internet search which will come up with all kinds of unexpected data on this and relative subjects, including the pedophile clergy, homosexual clergy, etc., etc.

No doubt some Vatican apologists will try to claim that in November, 2005, the Vatican officially banned all homosexuals from entering the Seminary, not to mention a ban against homosexual clergy?
   http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/religion/july-dec05/gays_11-29.html

However, as the expression goes, "the devil is in the details"!

According to one web site:

"The Vatican's latest move to keep homosexuals out of the priesthood came in a long-awaited eight-page document. The Catholic Church's new policy paper was published today after weeks of leaks and rumors.  Under the new instruction, the Church said it cannot admit to the seminary and to holy orders those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies, or support the so-called gay culture.  But the Church also said men may be ordained if they clearly overcome their transitory gay tendencies for three years before becoming a deacon, the last step before priesthood."

One such example of an openly admitted homosexual Satanic Vatican 2 church "priest" is Fred Daley of Utica N.Y. who, it is claimed, says he is "proud to be a gay priest"!

There is even a web site claiming that the so-called "9/11" priest was an alleged homosexual.  On its masthead at the very top of its page it proudly proclaims:  "Saint Mychal Judge"!

So now, the homosexual clergy of the Satanic Vatican 2 church actually have a homosexual-priest-"saint"???!!!

   http://saintmychaljudge.blogspot.com/2007/03/reserved-4.html

HOW did this all come about?

This is a long story, and one that makes me too ill to even waste my time researching!

But in passing, one must truthfully ask themselves, when wondering HOW any church could permit such deviant behavior, such as any of this, one must also truthfull face the grim historical facts that the Church was in fact infiltrated by evil people, as I have mentioned elsewhere on this website, including in some of the Sermons.

When one has the smoke of Satan in the Vatican, what can you honestly expect on the local level but even more perfidious smoke of Satan??!!

".... the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God"

(Pope Paul 6, June 29, 1972,
Homily during the Mass for Saints Peter & Paul,
On the occasion of the ninth anniversary of his coronation).

John Paul the Great and his Smoke of Satan:

Did Jesus Christ Hire Salome to Perform NUDE at HIS Mass?

WHO are the worthless good-for-nothings in this photo who sat on their hands and did nothing to stop this out of control, crazy Communist Pope, John Paul the Great, and his Satanic mockery of the Holy SACRIFICE of the Ancient Roman Rite of the Catholic Tradition Mass with this "Abomination of Desolation"???

John Paul the Great "Perfected"
the God - Condemned
"Abomination of Desolation"
with HIS NUDE NOR (Novus Ordo Rite)!

"And in the half of the week the Victim and the Sacrifice [of the Catholic Traditional Ancient Rite of the Holy SACRIFICE of the Ancient Mass] shall fail:  and there shall be in the Temple the Abomination of Desolation [the NEW NUDE Mass]:  and the Desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end" (Daniel 9:27).

"And they shall defile the Sanctuary of Strength, and shall take away the Continual Sacrifice [the Catholic Traditional Ancient Rite of the Holy SACRIFICE of the Ancient Mass], and they shall place there the Abomination unto desolation [the NEW NUDE Mass, a.k.a. the NEW NUDE Novus Ordo Missae, a.k.a. the NEW NUDE Novus Ordo Rite]" (Daniel  11:31).

John Paul the Great
Porno Pope!
 

John Paul the Great
"Patron Saint"
of the NEW NUDE "masses"!

No Wonder it is
THE Satanic Vatican 2 church!

John Paul the Great
Did NOT Imitate Jesus Christ!
 

Therefore,

Is it Any Wonder Then, That....

NOW THE GREAT Porno Pope Burns In Eternal Fire!

THEN THE GREAT Porno Pope Was Applauded!

In the Final Analysis:

I fully expect to receive angry E-Mails condemning me for exposing but a few of the many Truths about John Paul the Great (Herein I have not even mentioned his Wife, or even her name!) and his formal institution of the perfected "Abomination of Desolation", the NUDE NOR - the NUDE NEW "mass" and all of the above NUDE photos!

I can't wait to get your E-Mails!!!!  Hurry up and send them to me!!! My response is ready and waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for those who are still in denial, I can only ask - what is it going to take to wake you up from the hypnotic trance in which you are?

What is it going to take for you to wake up and see the fires of Hell buring John Paul the Great before the same fires of Hell burn your soul!?

THE SOUL YOU SAVE MUST BE YOUR OWN!

For too many decades too many Catholics have been in denial about the anti-Catholic changes to the Catholic Tradition Faith, Mass, and Sacraments!

My experience has been that there are literally millions and millions of catholics who are afraid - afraid of the Truth - that the Church was in fact infiltrated by the enemies of God, as Pope Saint Pius X so clearly testified in his Encyclical, not to mention the prophecies of Jesus Christ in 1902 warning all Catholics against the NEW Mass that His enemies were working on back then!  Our Blessed Mother's prophecies about all the NEW this and the NEW that in 1904, which has all come to pass as the result of the "convention" of the enemies of God, convoked by the Freemason, 2nd Pope John 23!

They become angry at those of us who tell them the Truth, either because they have a greater fear of the Truth than they do of going to Hell, or their sin of pride causes them to put up the proverbial "wall" so they can remain in the comfort of their deliberate ignorance!

However, deliberate ignorance - called "affected ignorance" - will not save anyone on the Day of Judgment!

On the contrary, as the Angelic Doctor warns:

“Affected ignorance does not excuse from guilt, but rather aggravates it since it shows that a man is so strongly attached to sin that he wishes to incur ignorance lest he avoid sinning.  The Jews therefore sinned, as crucifiers not only of the Man-Christ, but also as of God” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D. in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, Summa Theologica, Part III, Question 47, Article 5, Reply to Objection 3.)

Then there are people who are simply stubborn.

So, in the final analysis, irregardless the reason or excuse, for too many people who seem to somehow enjoy being in the darkness of confusion and of despair and of self-imposed deliberate ignorance, for too long it has been too True for them that:

"There is sufficient light for those who wish to see
and sufficient obscurity for those who do not wish to see"
(Blaise Pascal [b. at Clermont-Ferrand, Monday, June 19, 1623 -
d. in Paris, Saturday, August 19, 1662], PENSÉES SUR LA RELIGION,
Section VII,  Morality and Doctrine, ¶ 430, 1660 A.D.)

The Song of Bernadette

The above quote was updated for the movie, "The Song of Bernadette".

For your information, you might remember that it was a fourteen year old girl who had a total of eighteen visions of Our Lady of Lourdes in a grotto by the Gave River at Massabielle, near Lourdes, France, between Thursday, February 11, 1858 A.D. and Friday, July 16, 1858 A.D.  During this time, Our Lady of Lourdes revealed three secrets to this young girl, Bernadette, and gave her a prayer to say every day. Bernadette never told anyone what these secrets were or the prayer she prayed.

Bernadette entered the Convent of the Sisters of Charity of Nevers, France seven years later in 1865 A.D. and became Sister Marie-Bernard (Soeur Marie-Bernarde), better known today as Saint Bernadette Soubirous [b. at Lourdes, France on Sunday, January 7,1844 A.D.  - d. at Nevers, France on Wednesday, April 16, 1879 A.D.].  As from its earliest days in 1858 A.D., many pilgrims continue to visit the Shrine at Lourdes, drinking its water.  Some even bathe in its water, all hoping for a physical cure.  Of the thousands and thousands of miracles people have claimed at Lourdes (including that of my own Father), the doctors have confirmed at total of only 54 as totally beyond the limits of medical science.

The graphic at the conclusion of “The Song of Bernadette” reads:

“For those who believe, no explanation is necessary.
For those who do not believe, no explanation is possible.”

Roma locuta, causa finita!