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What Was It Like
In the Roman Catholic Seminary

BEFORE

All of the Many Changes
Council Vatican 2 Made?

 

What Was It Like in the
Roman Catholic Seminary

BEFORE

All of the Many Changes
Council Vatican 2 Made?


Roman Catholic Priests and Seminarians Before Synod Vatican 2


QUESTION:

Dear Fr. Michael:

On your Shrine of Saint Jude Website you have a number of photographs, one of which has the following caption below it:

"Pre-Vatican 2 Seminary Classmates,
Instructors, and Religious Superiors".

I am very interested in the way things were in the Roman Catholic Church before Council Vatican II, but most especially what was happening in Roman Catholic Seminaries about ten to twenty years before all of the many changes Council Vatican II made.

I have been unable to find anything on the internet with any real first-hand accounts on this subject.

Were you in the Roman Catholic Seminary system at this time?  If so, could you please tell me what it was like to be in a Roman Catholic Seminary in those days?

An interested Church Historian,

G. R.
 

ANSWER:

Dear G. R.:


Thank you for your interest and your question.

Introduction

Yes, I was in a Roman Catholic MAJOR Seminary before Synod Vatican 2.

However, I did NOT attend a Roman Catholic MINOR Seminary before Synod Vatican 2 because my parents were not able to afford it and so I went instead to a local public High School in which my Latin Teacher, who was a Catholic, and had been trained by Jesuits, offered a private class for myself and one other aspirant to the Holy Priesthood. For this opportunity, I have always been very grateful to the good God and to my wonderful, and very dedicated, High School Latin Teacher, especially because he was never paid for this private class!

My fellow Latin class classmate ended up in a secular (diocesan) Roman Catholic Seminary, but died a few years after his Priestly Ordination due to a severe heart condition.

I ended up going into a Roman Catholic Seminary of a Religious Congregation and, by the most Holy Will and Grace of God, I was also Ordained to the Holy Catholic Priesthood and am still in this life.

Part One

MINOR Roman Catholic Seminaries

Therefore, in order to try to be as thorough as possible in answering your question, I will begin by quoting directly from a person who claims that he attended a MINOR Roman Catholic Seminary.  But, please keep in mind that, based upon what this person has written, he attended a MINOR Seminary between 1965 (this would have been just shortly before Synod Vatican 2 ended) through 1969.

1965 was three years AFTER Synod Vatican 2 began and just a few months before it ended, not BEFORE Synod Vatican began.

To refresh your memory, Synod Vatican ran from Thursday, October 11, 1962 through Wednesday, December 8, 1965.

Nevertheless, what he writes is of historical value insofar as he is able to give you a first-hand account of what happened in MINOR Roman Catholic Seminaries in general during the very short TRANSITION time from very near to the end of Synod Vatican 2 up to its end, and then what happened after Synod Vatican 2 in MINOR Roman Catholic Seminaries.

Here is the direct quote, unchanged, of what he has written which I found on the internet.

N.B.  This internet web page does NOT have a copyright notice.

N.B.  My few notes, for clarification purposes, or for questions concerning the year which the text does not give, are all in [brackets].

Seminary High Schools after Vatican II

THE AUGUST 9, 2007 issue of The Wanderer [Editor’s Note: This Newspaper is a conservative Vatican 2 publication.] contained an article by James K. Fitzpatrick on the demise of seminary high schools after Vatican II.

Seminary high schools, also called “minor seminaries,” once played a major role in fostering priestly vocations. These institutions provided boys who felt inclined towards the priesthood with a spiritual and academic formation appropriate to their age, and prepared them for the higher studies that would come in the later stages of the seminary program.

Seminary high schools were a great success, and before Vatican II most priests started on their road towards ordination in such a school. I myself graduated from one in 1969, and I am forever grateful to God for what I received.

Mr. Fitzpatrick says that up until about 10 or 15 years ago, he was inclined to defend these institutions. An article in The Washington Post (!), however, changed his mind.

“Facts are facts,” Mr. Fitzpatrick says. Not one of his classmates from Cathedral High, a seminary high school in New York, went on to become a priest.

In the late 1960s, he notes, there were 122 high school seminaries in the U.S. with a total enrollment of about 16,000. Now there are just seven with a combined enrollment about 500.

Quigley Preparatory Seminary in Chicago, closed in June [2007?] after 102 years in existence, has seen just one graduate ordained in the past 17 years .

Most men being ordained in U.S. seminaries these days, Mr. Fitzpatrick observes, are older, often in their 30s and 40s.

“What are we to conclude? Is this another unfortunate sign of the materialism and loss of Catholic identity in the modern world? Or is it more a situation where the Church has learned that it is better for young men to be a bit older and with more life experience before they begin their training for the priesthood and religious life.”

Did the graduates of these institutions, Mr. Fitzpatrick asks, go on to become “good priests”?

“The large wave of defections from the religious life in the 1960s and 1970s,” he answers, “included large numbers of religious who were in training from their early teenage years.”

Mr. Fitzpatrick ends his article with an anecdote about a religious brother he admired, but who abandoned his vocation. He then closes with the following sentence:

“He had been living as a member of the order since his early teens, through his high school, college, and young adult years.”

From this, readers are meant to infer that the pre-Vatican II system of seminary high schools was the cause for so many to abandon their vocations.

These comments prompted me to send Mr. Fitzpatrick the following letter [in 2007?]:

* * *

Dear Mr. Fitzpatrick,

In your article on seminary high schools (Wanderer, 9 August 2007), you wonder why these institutions ceased to attract potential young vocations to the priesthood, and you claim that “there is no self-evident answer.”

Well, I can give you one: Vatican II destroyed the Catholic priesthood.

I studied at a seminary high school in Milwaukee during the years 1965-1969 and I witnessed this from the inside. As the changes in doctrine, discipline and worship began to touch each facet of Church life, I saw good and holy priests whom I admired turn into heretics, time-servers or disheartened apostates from the priestly state.

What idealistic young man would aspire to become part of such a mess?

My minor seminary, De Sales Prep, soon closed its doors, as did my seminary college, St. Francis. The massive new complex that housed both institutions (completed in 1963) was transformed into offices for the metastasized diocesan bureaucracy, exercise facilities for the Milwaukee Bucks and a retirement home for priests.

The major seminary, founded in 1848, shut down its academic program in July of this year [2007?]. The few students who remain in the empty and downsized building take courses at a small religious order seminary nearby.

Before Vatican II all these institutions were thriving. One hundred and twenty-five boys entered with me as freshmen in the seminary high school. The Rector told us that after the twelve, hard years of study that would follow, just a small number of us would be ordained — “only” twenty-five.

To deny that Vatican II emptied these seminaries and destroyed the Catholic priesthood is to deny reality. From the time of St. Benedict (+543) [N.B.  This is the year Saint Benedict died.], religious institutions received boys, formed them spiritually, educated them and prepared them to be monks, priests and religious — a practice repeatedly commended by the popes.

But what flourished before the Council withered after it — nearly instantly — yet people like you refuse to read the writing on the wall.

I know the usual excuse Wanderer types make for the post-Vatican II mess: the Council was not properly “interpreted,” it restated all the traditional doctrines, etc.

However, as I quickly discovered in the seminary when I tried to use Vatican II’s statements against modernists, the documents are rife with double-talk, ambiguities and terminal logorrhea.

(If this were not so, by the way, the CDF statement on Lumen Gentium’s “subsists in” that you’ve been doing cartwheels over would not have been necessary. Forty years, and it still needs to be “clarified”?)

The Vatican II documents are classic modernist claptrap of the type St. Pius X condemned in Pascendi: Catholic-sounding on one page, doctrinally subversive on the next. This was method and intention of the periti [theologians] — Rahner, Schillebeeckx, de Lubac, Congar and, yes, Ratzinger [N.B. now Pope Benedict 16th]— who massaged the language of the texts as they were being written.

If we wish to restore the Catholic priesthood, the only “light” in which we should “interpret” the Vatican II documents should be that of a bonfire — in which we burn every single copy.

Sincerely yours…

Rev. Anthony Cekada

Part Two

Commentary on MINOR Roman Catholic Seminaries

Before I proceed to my own first-hand account, a commentary on the above is needed.

I need to ask all of you who are reading this:  Would you not also be extremely frustrated and beyond angry with your teachers, as is the author of the above article, IF during your first year in high school your Priest-teachers taught you certain things which the Roman Catholic Church teaches and then, the very next year these very same Priest-teachers would teach you either something totally different and/or the total opposite of what they had taught you just the previous year???

Since when does the Truth change?

Since when does God - Who is Truth - change?


Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P.

The answer is:
“God is immutable” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D., in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, Summa Theologica, Part I, Question 9, Article 1).

“God is Truth” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., Summa Theologica, Part I, Question 16, Article 5; Summa Theologica, Part II-II, Question 93, Article 2, Reply to Objection 2. Summa Contra Gentiles Book I, Chapter 60.)

“Truth cannot be Truth’s contrary” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., Summa Contra Gentiles, IV, 8.)

For anyone who would want to be in denial about any of this, it would be like any teacher who one year, in teaching the science of mathematics, teaches the freshmen students that 2 plus 2 equals 4.

But then, the very next year, this very same teacher teaches the same students, in their sophomore year, that 2 plus 2 equals 22!!!

Or what of a science teacher who teaches the freshmen students that the earth is round, but the very next year, this very same teacher teaches the same students, in their sophomore year, that the earth is square!!!

Would you not question the sanity of such "teachers"?

Would you not question the integrity of such "teachers"?

Would you not question the sincerity of such "teachers"?

Would you not question the competence of such "teachers"?

Would you not question the morals of such "teachers"?

What ever happened to teaching only the objective Truth?
How can such teachers have any credibility?

Why should you even bother to learn falsehoods and lies?

How is it that a teacher who deliberately teaches errors is somehow "good"?

How is it that a teacher who deliberately teaches errors is "rewarded"?

How is it that no one in authority corrects such a teacher who deliberately teaches errors?

What is wrong with the people in charge of such a teacher?

What is wrong with a school system which permits such a teacher in such a school to blatantly teach errors?

What is wrong with society which permits such a school system to continue to permit such a teacher in such a school to blatantly teach errors?

Where does the false teaching end?

Where does the depravity end?

Why is there no accountability to anyone for any of this?

Who is ultimately responsible for this nonsense?

Who is ultimately responsible for deliberately teaching innocent children errors and lies??!!

It is bad enough to have the paganized, secular humanistic, anti-God United States Public School System do this on a daily basis with some of the garbage they try to force their teachers to teach to innocent children - for which crimes Almighty God will exact a severely strict accounting of them on their Day of Judgement because, as the Scripture testifies:

"But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believes in Me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hung about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea"  (Matthew 18:6),
but, when falsehoods, errors, and lies are taught to these little ones, in mis-nomered "Roman Catholic" schools, by whoever, especially by Sisters, Nuns, and/or Priests, and most especially when falsehoods, errors, and lies are taught to Seminarians, whether in MINOR Seminaries and/or MAJOR Seminaries, by "priests", so-called, some of which Seminarians would be destined to become future Priests, Bishops, Archbishops, Cardinals, Popes, etc., what kind of horrific, severe, judgement awaits such teachers and those who are in authority who permit such Satanic evils, most especially Religious Superiors, Ordinaries (Bishops) of local Dioceses, and the Vatican in general and the Pope in particular????!!!!

WHY is it not a contradiction to call such a Pope, "Holy"???

But this is exactly the evils that the Priest-teachers of the above author taught him regarding the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church in his MINOR Roman Catholic Seminary!

How can such Religious Superiors, Bishops, and Popes permit the deliberate teaching of such falsehoods, errors, and lies and do nothing to change it,- especially when it involves the teaching of future Priests and Bishops!!?

How can such heretic and apostate Priests, Bishops, and Popes live with their own conscience?

Not only that, but Jesus Christ NEVER gave the Apostles, or any of their successors, or any group of Bishops or councils or synod of Bishops, or anyone else - not even a Pope, any power, authority, and/or jurisdiction to CHANGE any of His UNCHANGEABLE Divine Teachings, Divine Truths!!!
 
 

For example:

I am the Lord and I change not. (Malachias 2:6)

Hold the traditions which you have learned. (2 Thessalonians 2:14.)

Now the Spirit manifestly saith that in the last times some shall depart from the Faith, giving heed to spirits of error and doctrines of devils speaking lies in hypocrisy and having their conscience seared.  (1 Timothy 4:1.)

Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words, oppositions of knowledge falsely so-called.  (1 Timothy 6:20.)

But though We, or an angel from Heaven, preach to you a Gospel besides that which We have preached to you; let him be anathema. (Galatians 1:8.)

Be not led away with various and strange doctrines.  Jesus Christ yesterday, and today, and the same forever. (Hebrews 13:8-9)

With the Father of light there is no change nor shadow of alteration.  (James 1:17.)


Patriarch Saint Athanasius

“But God’s Word is one and the same and, as it is written: The Word of God endureth forever [Isaias 40:8] unchanged, not before or after another, but existing the same always.  For it was fitting, whereas God is One, that His Image should be One also, and His Word One and One His Wisdom” (Patriarch Saint Athanasius [b. Alexandria, Egypt 296 A.D. - d. Alexandria, Egypt on Wednesday, May 2, 373A.D.], Patriarch of Alexandria, Egypt, Father of Orthodoxy in the Catholic Church, Four Discourses Against the Arians, Discourse II, Chapter XVII, Introduction to Proverbs viii. 22, Continued, ¶ 36;emphasis added).

Revealed Truth, to be what it professes, must have an uninterrupted descent from the Apostles.  Its teachers must be unanimous and persistent in their unanimity and it must bear no human master’s name as its designation.  (Patriarch Saint Athanasius, Father of Orthodoxy in the Catholic Church).

“Let us note that the very tradition, teaching, and faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning, which the Lord gave, was preached by the Apostles, and was preserved by the Fathers. On this was the Church founded; and if anyone departs from this, he neither is, nor any longer ought to be called, a Christian.”  (Patriarch Saint Athanasius, Letter to Serapion of Thmuis, 359 A.D.).


Bishop Saint Polycarp

Let us abandon the vanities of the crowd and their false teachings; let us return to the word which was delivered to us from the beginning.  (Bishop Saint Polycarp [c. 69 A.D. - d. martyred on Saturday, February 23, 166 A.D.], a Disciple of Saint John the Apostle, Evangelist and author of the Apocalypse [b.  ?  A.D. - d. Ephesus, c. 101 A.D.], who made him the Bishop of Smyrna.  Saint Polycarp is an Apostolic Father of the Catholic Church.).


Catholicus Saint Basil the Great

Dogmas of Faith cannot be altered one jot or tittle because “of the law [of Faith] we are told one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law (Matthew 5:18)”  (Catholicus Saint Basil the Great [b. Caesarea, Cappadocia 329 A.D. - d. Caesarea, Cappadocia on Monday, January 1, 379 A.D.]. His Mother was Emmelia, the Daughter of a holy martyr.  He was the Catholicus of Caesarea, Metropolitan Archbishop of Cappadocia, Exarch of Pontus, Superior of fifty Chorepiscopi [Sunday, June 14, 370 A.D. - Monday, January 1, 379 A.D.], Doctor of the Catholic Church, De Spiritu Sancto, Chapter 1, ¶ 2).


Bishop Saint Isidore of Seville

“Therefore, heresy is so-called from the Greek word meaning “choice”, by which each chooses according to his own will what he pleases to teach or believe.  BUT WE ARE NOT PERMITTED TO BELIEVE WHATEVER WE CHOOSE, NOR TO CHOOSE WHATEVER SOMEONE ELSE HAS BELIEVED. We have the Apostles of God as authorities, who did not themselves of their own will choose what they would believe, but faithfully transmitted to the nations the teaching received from Christ.  So, even if an Angel from Heaven should preach otherwise, he shall be called anathema”  (Bishop Saint Isidore of Seville [b. Cartagena, Spain 560 A.D. - d. Seville, Spain, 636 A.D.], Bishop of Seville, Doctor of the Catholic Church, ETYMOLOGIES, 8, 3; emphasis added).

Hold firmly that our faith is identical with that of the ancients.  Deny this, and you dissolve the unity of the Church.  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., Disputations Concerning Truth, 14,12.)


Saint Vincent of Lerins

“In an epistle sent at the time to Africa, he [Pope Saint Stephen I [Friday, May 12, 254 - Sunday, August 2, 257] laid down this rule: Let there be no innovation - nothing but what has been handed down.  For that holy and prudent man well knew that true piety admits no other rule than that whatsoever things have been faithfully received from our Fathers the same are to be faithfully consigned to posterity.  It is our duty to follow Religion, not to make Religion follow us.  The proper characteristic of Christians is not to impose their own beliefs or observances upon posterity, but to preserve and keep what we have received from those who went before us. What then was the issue of the whole matter? What but the usual and customary one? Antiquity was retained, novelty [i.e. change] was rejected”  (Saint Vincent of Lerins [b. Toul, France, c. 400 A.D. - d. Island of Lerins, c. 450 A.D.], A Commonitory [an aid to memory] for the Antiquity and Universality of the Catholic Faith Against the Profane Novelties of All Heresies, Chapter VI, ¶ 16; emphasis added).


First Council of Chalcedon
We have only one doctrine; this is the faith of the Doctors of the Church; this is the faith of the Holy Apostles; this is the faith which has saved the world.  (Fourth Œcumenical Council, the First Council of Chalcedon [Sunday, October 8, 451 A.D. -  Wednesday, November 1, 451 A.D.])


Second Council of Nicæa

We preserve the teachings of the Fathers (of the Church); We anathematize those who add or subtract anything (Seventh Œcumenical Council, the Second Council of Nicæa [Thursday, September 24, 787 A.D. - Friday, October 23, 787 A.D.]).


Pope Saint Stephen I

Let them innovate in nothing, but keep the Tradition. (Pope Saint Stephen I [254-257], Letter to Saint Cyprian, 74.)

So WHAT HAPPENS to those Clergy, whether Priests, Bishops, or Popes, who, exaulted by Satanic Pride, dare to CHANGE any of the UNCHANGEABLE Divine Teachings and UNCHANGEABLE Divine Truths of Almighty God, and then, what is even worse, to TEACH such Satanic CHANGES???

Almighty God has already warned such devil-possessed monsters in these words:

"For I testify to every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book:  If any man shall add to these things, God shall add unto him the plagues written in this book.   And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that are written in this book" (Apocalypse 22:18-19).
The common consensus seems to be that the term "this book" is not only not literally limited to the Apocalypse, but also instead it actually applies to the entire Scripture - the entire Bible - because it seems that most Scripture Exegetics (Scholars) take the position that various parts of the Bible have different levels of meaning, not only the literal, but also the Spiritual - whether Ascetical and/or Mystical, the Supernatural, the Allegorical (Metaphorical), etc., etc.


Venerable Mary of Agreda

Case in point is what one finds in the following example in Private Revelation:

"The mystery of which I am about to speak, with many others concerning our great Queen, was recorded by the Evangelist [Saint John] in the metaphors of the 21st Chapter of the Apocalypse; especially introducing the most holy Mary under the type of the holy Jerusalem and describing her under cover of all the circumstances mentioned in that chapter.  Although in the first part I have explained it at length in 3 chapters, applying it as it was then given me to understand, to the mystery of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mother; yet it is necessary now to interpret it in relation to the mystery of the descent of the Queen of Angels after the Ascension of the Lord. Let it not be objected that there is a contradiction or repugnance in these different applications: for both of them are legitimately founded on the literal text of the Scriptures and there can be no doubt that the Divine Wisdom can comprehend in the same and identical words many mysteries and sacraments.  As David said:  God hath spoken once, these two things have I heard, that power belongeth to God [Psalm 61:12]and God certainly included a double meaning in the same words without equivocation or contradiction " (Venerable Mary of Agreda, MYSTICAL CITY OF GOD, Book IV, The Coronation, ¶ 14, pp. 42, 43).

Father Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.

Lest anyone be overanxious, or otherwise be wont to quickly dismiss out of hand, Private Revelation, it would be most wise, most prudent, and most profitable to most seriously and most prayerfully consider the following:

“In regard to the visits of the Lord, we must also remember that they often differ appreciably.  There are visits of consolation, like the apparitions of Lourdes; But if people do not profit by them, the Lord comes to chastise; and if they do not profit by this Divine correction, He may come to condemn. [Footnote # 4:  Cf. Saint Thomas In Isaiam, Chap. 24: ‘The visitation of the Lord is multiple; of consolation...of correction...and at times of condemnation.’]” (Reverend Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P. [b. Auch, France 1877 A.D. - d. Rome, Italy, 1964 A.D.], who taught dogmatic and Spiritual theology for 53 years at the Pontifical University of Saint Thomas Aquinas, the Angelicum, in Rome, THE THREE AGES OF THE INTERIOR LIFE, Prelude of Eternal Life, Translated by Sister M. Timothea Doyle, O.P., Volume Two, Chapter XXXIX, The effects of the Passive Purification of the Spirit in Relation Especially to the Three Theological Virtues, p. 402; emphasis added).

“As regards the guidance of human acts, the prophetic revelation varied not according to the course of time, but according as circumstances required, because as it is written (Proverbs 29:18), ‘When prophecy shall fail, the people shall be scattered abroad.’  Wherefore at all times men were divinely instructed about what they were to do, according as it was expedient for the spiritual welfare of the elect”  (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D. in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, Summa Theologica, Part II-II, Question 174, Article 6, Body).

“The prophets who foretold the coming of Christ could not continue further than John, who, with his finger, pointed to Christ actually present. Nevertheless as [Saint] Jerome says on this passage, ‘This does not mean that there were no more prophets after John. For we read in the Acts of the Apostles that Agabus and the four maidens, daughters of Philip, prophesied.’ John, too, wrote a prophetic book about the end of the Church; and at all times there have not been lacking persons having the spirit of prophecy, not indeed for the declaration of any new doctrine of faith, but for the direction of human acts. Thus Augustine says (De Civ. Dei [City of God] v, 26) that ‘the emperor Theodosius sent to John who dwelt in the Egyptian desert, and whom he knew by his ever-increasing fame to be endowed with the prophetic spirit: and from him he received a message assuring him of victory’” (Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., Summa Theologica, Part II-II, Question 174, Article 6, Reply to Objection 3).


Marie-Julie Jahenny

Therefore, Private Revelations are not to be despised and/or ignored, including the prophecies from Private Revelation concerning the CHANGES to the Catholic Church which prophecies of Jesus Christ and Our Blessed Mother the Stigmatist Marie-Julie Jahenny relayed to all Catholics that they would be on their guard against such invalid, illegal, and Satanic CHANGES most especially to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Marie-Julie Jahenny saw that “there will not remain any vestige of the Holy Sacrifice, no apparent trace of faith. Confusion will be everywhere...”

On Saturday, November 27, 1902, the 72nd anniversary of the Miraculous Medal Apparition [Saturday, November 27, 1830], Our Lord warned of the conspiracy of evil people which was already inventing a new liturgy - this was in 1902!!! - to replace the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass:


Jesus Christ

“I give you a warning. The disciples who are not of My Gospel are now working hard to remake, according to their ideas, and under the influence of the enemy of souls [Satan], a Mass that contains words which are odious in My Sight. When the fatal hour arrives where the faith of My Priests are put to the test, it will be these texts that will be celebrated, in this second period.”

“The first period is the one of My Priesthood, existing since Me. The second is the one of the persecution, when the enemies of the Faith and of Holy Religion will impose their formulas in the book of the second celebration. These infamous spirits are those who crucified me and are awaiting the kingdom of the New Messias.  Many of My holy Priests will refuse this book, sealed with the words of the abyss. Unfortunately, amongst them are those who will accept it.”
 


Our Blessed Mother

On Tuesday, May 10, 1904, Our Lady described the New Clergy and their liturgy:

“They will not stop on this hateful and sacrilegious road. They will go further to compromise all at once, and in one blow, the Holy Church, the Clergy, and the Faith of my children.”
She announced the “dispersion of the pastors” by the church herself; true Pastors, who will be replaced by others formed by Hell:
“...NEW preachers of NEW sacraments, NEW temples, NEW baptisms, NEW confraternities.”
The Novus Ordo Missae  - the “NEW Mass” - is a 16th Century updated, synthesized, modernized Protestant Memorial Supper Meal made up by Communists, Freemasons, and Modernists Heretics:


Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani

“....the NOVUS ORDO represents, both as a whole and in its details, a striking departure from the Catholic theology of the Mass as it was formulated in Session 22 of the Synod of Trent.  The Canons on the [Ancient Roman] Rite definitively fixed at that time provided an insurmountable barrier to any heresy directed against the integrity of the Mystery.” (His Eminence Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani [b. on Wednesday, October 29, 1890 - d. on Friday, August 3, 1979] was Secretary of the Holy Office of the Roman Curia from 1959 to 1966 when that dicastery was reorganized as the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, in which he served as Pro-Prefect, until 1968, the Prefect-Emeritus of the Sacred Congregation of the Faith,  LETTER TO POPE PAUL, September 25, 1969; emphasis added.)
“It is rather strong to claim that the New Mass is contrary to the Council of Trent but, displeasing as it is, it is true” (Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani, Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Holy Office).

“Are we seeking to stir up wonder, or perhaps scandal, among the Christian people, by introducing changes in so venerable a rite that has been approved for so many centuries and is now so familiar?  The rite of Holy Mass should not be treated as if it were a piece of cloth to be refashioned according to the whim of each generation” (Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani, Cardinal Prefect of the Holy Office, 1962, Ralph M. Wiltgen, “The Rhine Flows into the Tiber”, Tan Books, 1967, p. 28).

No wonder the Catholic Traditional Faith, Mass, and Sacraments were changed, and Catholic Traditional books were thrown out to be replaced by these anti-Catholic infiltrators!!!


Mrs. Bella Dodd

An article in “Christian Order”  magazine (November, 2000) recounts how Mrs. Bella Dodd and her associate, Douglas Hyde, revealed the plan for the Communist subversion of the Roman Catholic Church.

Mrs. Bella Dodd also claimed that the Communist party actively infiltrated agents into Roman Catholic Seminaries.  She  told her friend, Dr. Alice von Hildebrand, the theologian, that:

“When she was an active party member, she had dealt with no fewer than four Cardinals within the Vatican who were working for us, [i.e. the Communist Party]” (Christian Order magazine, “The Church in Crisis”, reprinted from The Latin Mass magazine).
Mrs. Bella Dodd gave voluminous testimony on the Communist infiltration of the Roman Catholic Church and in the United States government before the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950’s.

In a lecture at Fordham University during that time, Mrs. Dodd unveiled what would seem to be an uncanny prophecy of future chaos in the Roman Catholic Church.

She  provided detailed information of the Communist subversion of the Roman Catholic Church.  Speaking as a former high ranking official of the American Communist Party, Mrs. Dodd said in part:

In the 1930’s we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the [Roman Catholic] Church from within.
Part of this Satanic destruction is what Rev. Anthony Cekada mentions in his article about his days in a MINOR Roman Catholic Seminary at the end of, and after, Synod Vatican 2 which was a get-together of Freemasons, Communists, Modernists, and Satanists to CHANGE the Roman Catholic Church and, by the CHANGES OF SYNOD VATICAN 2 these
Freemasons, Communists, Modernists, and Satanists hoped "to destroy the [Roman Catholic] Church from within”!!!

The idea was for these men to be ordained and progress to positions of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops.

In 1950, a dozen years before Synod Vatican 2, Mrs. Dodd stated that:

“Right now they [the Communist infiltrators] are in the highest places in the Church”
where they were working to bring about CHANGE in order to weaken the Church’s effectiveness against Communism.

She also said that these CHANGES would be so drastic that:

“you will not recognize the Catholic Church.”
Therefore, is it any wonder that Synod Vatican 2 had more than its share of Freemasons, Communists, Modernists, and Satanists??!!


Douglas Hyde

Ex-Communist and celebrated Roman Catholic convert, Douglas Hyde, revealed long ago that in the 1930’s the Communist leadership issued a worldwide directive about infiltrating the Roman Catholic Church.

This helps to explain why:


Giuseppe Cardinal Siri

“[Synod Vatican 2 was] the greatest disaster in recent ecclesiastical history” (Giuseppe Cardinal Siri [b. Sunday, May 20, 1906 in Genoa, Italy - d. Tuesday, May 2, 1989], Archbishop of Genoa, Italy, from “Pontiff”, p. 369 - Gordon Thomas/Max Morgan Witts).

“[Synod Vatican 2 was] a sinister farce acted out by three thousand good-for-nothings, some of whom, despite the gold [pectoral] crosses on their chests, don’t even believe in the Trinity or the Virgin”  (Bishop Antonio Romeo of the Sacred Congregation of Rites in Bob Considine’s column ON THE LINE in the NEW YORK JOURNAL AMERICAN of Friday, November 27, 1964.)

I pray to God that I may die before the end of the council -- in that way I can die a Catholic” (Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani, June 1962, Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Holy Office, following a speech by Cardinal Montini  - the future Paul VI - on the need for changes in the Church).

Marie-Julie Jahenny speaks of a “horrible religionwhich would replace the Roman Catholic Church.

Marie-Julie Jahenny saw “many, many bishopsembracing this “sacrilegious, infamous religion”.

Marie-Julie Jahenny is 100% correct again!

This  “horrible religion” which would replace the Roman Catholic Church.

The “many, many bishops” she saw embracing this “sacrilegious, infamous religion” is the Satanic Vatican 2 church which was “birthed” by the Communist, Freemasonic, Modernist, Satanic infiltrators, including those “four cardinals within the Vatican who were working for” the Communist Party, not to mention those “eleven hundred men [i.e. Communists she put] into the priesthood in order to destroy the [Roman Catholic] Church from within!!!!

The “many, many bishops” Marie-Julie Jahenny saw embracing this “sacrilegious, infamous religion” were the “three thousand good-for-nothings” who took part in the “sinister farce” known as Synod Vatican 2!!!

NO WONDER Rev. Anthony Cekada, in his above-quoted article, is right on target in his account of some of his own personal experiences in the Satanic Vatican 2 church MINOR Seminary in which he was in!!!

Part Three

MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminaries

By the Most Holy Will and Grace of God, I was very fortunate to have entered a MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminary BEFORE Synod Vatican 2 began.  DEO GRATIAS ET MARIAE!  Thanks be to God and Mary!

The Novitiate

My life in a MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminary before Synod Vatican 2 includes both general information as well as some personal experiences.

In general, I learned that all Religious Orders and Religious Congregations of Men and Women have a Rule, originally written by the Holy Founder of that particular Religious Order (members of a Religious Order take solemn vows) or that particular Religious Congregation (members of a Religious Congregation take simple vows), which, in some cases, has been somewhat modified, whether due to changes in technology, or the primary purpose(s) of that Order or Congregation, as well as various civil laws which do not permit certain types of Religious activities, e.g. the mendicant Orders in the U.S. can not go door to door to beg for food as was the case when they were first founded in Western Europe over 600 to 900 years ago, etc.

All Religious Orders and Religious Congregations of Men and Women have a Novitiate which is a time primarily devoted to learning about, and actually living, a genuine, real Spiritual Life.  The length of time varies from Order to Order and Congregation to Congregation, but in my case consisted of 6 months as a Postulant when I wore black shoes and socks, black dress slacks, a white shirt with a black tie and, in cold weather, a black sweater indoors and a black dress topcoat outdoors with a black hat.

When I became a Novice, I was given the official Religious Habit of my Religious Congregation. The official title of the  Religious Congregation I entered is: “Missionariis Congregationis Filiorum Immaculati Cordis Beatae Mariae Virginis”, which is translated into English as: “Missionary Congregation of Sons of the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary”.


Archbishop Saint Anthony Mary Claret

On Monday, July 16, 1849 in Vich, Spain, Archbishop Saint Anthony Mary Claret, C.M.F., D.D., a.k.a. Antonio Maria Claret y Clara [b. Sallent, Catalonia, Spain, Thursday, December 24, 1807 A.D. - d. Fontfroide, Narbonne, France at 8:45 A.M. on Monday, October 24, 1870 A.D. Feast Day October 23], along with Father Stephen Sala, Father Joseph Xifre, Father Dominic Fabregas, Father Manuel Vilaro and Father Jaime Clotet formed a Religious Congregation of Priests, with the above name, at the local Seminary in Vich, Spain.

At that time they also began the Spiritual Exercises of Saint Ignatius:

“Because July 16 is the Feast of the Holy Cross and of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel, I based my first sermon on those words of the twenty-second Psalm: ‘Thy rod and Thy staff, they have comforted me' [Psalm 22:4] alluding to the devotion and confidence we should place in the Holy Cross and the Blessed Virgin Mary and applying it also to the project we were beginning” (Archbishop Saint Anthony Mary Claret, AUTOBIOGRAPHY, # 490).
During that summer they remained at the seminary of Vich as they waited for the Bishop of Vich, Dr. Luciano Casadevall, to rehabilitate the Monastery of Our Lady of Mercy for the new Congregation. After the government had evicted the Mercedarians from their monastery, it had been converted into a barracks. Shortly before 1849 it had been used as the city jail but the government had left it at the disposal of Bishop Casadevall of Vich.  To make a long story short, that was the beginning of the Religious Congregation which I had joined.

I had joined it because of their Vocation Director who came to my Parent’s home with a 16mm movie and a 16mm movie projector which showed some of the activities of the members of this Religious Congregation, both as Seminarians, and as Priests.

It was very impressive, especially considering how the Vocation Director had traveled over 150 miles one way just to see me and to let my Parents and myself watch this hour-long vocational movie which was very well done.  What made it even more impressive was that the Vocational Director for the Dominican Fathers, whom I had also contacted, only sent me one, very small, piece of literature in the mail, and not only did he never bother to call me, but he never came to my Parents' home to talk with my Parents and myself and to answer our questions.

On the contrary, after the movie was over, the Vocation Director sat back in a chair and asked my Parents for their questions and answered every one them.  He then asked me for my questions and answered all of my questions.

I still remember the most important of all of the questions I asked him, because it was Father’s answer to this one simple question that was the primary reason why I decided to join the “Missionary Congregation of Sons of the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary”, a.k.a. “Claretians”.

I told the Claretian Vocation Director that I was only considering two possible choices:

1) either to join the Claretians; or,
2) to join the Dominicans.
I liked both of them because they are devoted to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

I liked the Dominicans because of their great devotion to the Holy Rosary and also to the fact that they are Preachers, and thus called the Order of Preachers.

But I also liked the Claretians because of their devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary and they publish two magazines.  I had hopes of becoming a writer for these two magazines.

Therefore, I was clearly confused and did not know what to do!

The Claretian Vocation Director’s quick response ended my confusion - permanently!

What was his response?

“All devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary are contained in her Heart!”
That did it for me!

So this is how I came to end up in their MAJOR Seminary.

Now it was a requirement that their Novitiate had to be kept separate from their Scholasticate (where Major Seminarians study Scholastic Philosophy for four years) and their Theologate (where Major Seminarians study Theology for four years).

So this explains why their Novitiate was located about ten miles, or so, South of Terre Haute, Indiana.  So my Parents drove me to the Novitiate where, as a Novice, I received the official Claretian Habit which consisted of a Black Cassock, Black Cassock Cincture, Black Shoulder Cape, White Roman Collar attached to a Black Cassock Rabat, and a Black Biretta.

The black and white photo above was taken when I entered the Novitiate.  For a reason I no longer remember, none of us wore the Black Shoulder Cape or the Black Biretta.

So that we would not forget Latin, all of my fellow Novices and myself had one class of Latin for about one hour several days a week.  All the rest of our classes, reading, etc.,etc., was devoted exclusively to the study of the Spiritual Life, learning how to Meditate, chanting the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary every day, in Latin of course (unfortunately I later learned it was the Pius XII Psalter, not that of Saint Jerome), a half hour of recreation in the middle of the morning and a full one hour of recreation in the evening.

Every Novice was assigned a specific area of the Novitiate to take care of.  Mine was the living room for the two Priests who lived at the Novitiate.  One Priest was the Novice Master and the other was called the “Minister” because he took care of buying the food, paying the utilities, and such like.  He was also the Chaplain for the Discalced Carmelite Monastery of Nuns about a mile down the road.  The area was called “Allendale” and consisted of the Monastery, our Novitiate, various private homes on the private road which dead-ended about a mile going the other direction into a swanky Country Club.  Needless to say, no Novices were allowed to go to the Country Club!

My cleaning of the living room was very easy, except for cleaning the bird cage about every other day.  The problem was not the cleaning of the cage as such, but rather that the Novice Master falsely accused me of reading the newspaper he provided before I cut it to the size of the bottom of the cage to replace the paper that was soiled in the cage.

This was my second experience with a Priest lying.  I call him a “liar” because, IF he really believed what he said, he could have instantly had someone else do the bird cage job instead of me!  Yet he continued to let me have this same bird cage job, along with the rest of the living room, until I successfully completed the Novitiate and went to the Philosophate for the Study of Scholastic Philosophy, along with many other subjects.  Apparently he used this ruse as an excuse to continue to verbally attack me - just because he thought our temperaments and personalities clashed?

On the contrary, God the Holy Ghost showed me that the real problem was that he was angry that God permitted me to see through some of his deceptions which he tried to pull on my fellow Novices from time to time, and especially that when he tried to do the same with me, it never worked - thanks only to God the Holy Ghost for His enlightenment - certainly not through any personal merits of mine.  He was also very angry with me because I had told my fellow Novices about how he was trying to deceive them with whatever it happened to be at the time.

My first experience with a Priest lying was also this same Priest - my Novice Master - who, when my Parents first brought me to the Novitiate, was very rude and had them waiting for him for several hours, despite the fact that they were tired from the long trip and wanted to get started on their return trip home.

The Novice Master had originally excused himself from meeting with my Parents by claiming he had something very important to do and could not meet with them right then and that they would have to wait until after he had finished this very important business.  I no longer remember exactly what he said the important business was.

But it was only about a week or two later that one of the other Novices, who explained to me why he knew exactly what was really going on, told me that the reason this Priest - the Novice Master - had made my Parents wait for several hours to see him was because he was taking a nap!  So why did he lie to my Parents and make them wait so long?  Why not tell them the truth that perhaps he was tired and needed to take a nap, or whatever?

About a year later, when my Parents returned for my First Profession, they told me that they had witnessed this same Novice Master, in front of the Novitiate, disrespecting his, and my, Provincial Superior - of all people, demanding that he, the Novice Master, was supposed to be able to take a three week vacation.

Bottom line, this Novice Master was having a 2-year-old temper tantrum to try to get his way with the Provincial Superior - and not in private, but in public in front of all of the Parents of all of the Novices!  Some role model! The Provincial Superior said not one word, but got into his car and left for Chicago where the Provincial Residence was located.

When my Parents told me about this, I told them that the Novice Master had just returned from having taken his three weeks vacation only two weeks before that when the other Priest at the Novitiate, the “Minister”, as he was called, temporarily took the place of the Novice Master for those three weeks!

No wonder my Provincial Superior ignored this public disgrace to the Holy Priesthood and left, without saying one word, to the lying Novice Master who remained standing in the parking lot surrounded by all of the Parents of the Novices as if he was in some kind of a dramatic stage play and he was the “poor victim” of that mean old Provincial Superior!!!

In those days, all Seminarians, including Novices, were not permitted to either receive and/or to make any telephone calls, were forbidden to read any newspapers or magazines, were forbidden to have radios, records, and record players, were forbidden to watch TV (except for the Scholastics and Theologians who had only one TV set which was located in their recreation room - but they could only watch it for only one half per day and that was during the one hour evening recreation period when the TV program - which was only the national news - was personally supervised by the Prefect of Students), etc., etc. The whole idea was to stay out of the world as much as possible.

There was a laundry crew that did the laundry once a week.  It consisted of two Novices, one of whom was going to be a Brother - the rest of us were wanting to study to become Priests.  They went to a coin-operated laundromat in Terre Haute.  Aside from helping out once, maybe two times, with the laundry, the entire time I was in the Novitiate, along with the other Novices (except the two regulars who did the laundry), none of us ever left the Novitiate except for a few very rare trips.  One was to Indianapolis, Indiana where we stopped at the Indy 500 race track and museum one week day during warm weather (I no longer remember which month, but it had to be a summer month), and then stopped to visit with the Carmelite Nuns at their Monastery in Indianapolis and then back to the Novitiate.

As I remember it, the Novice Master had to be very careful that we Novices were not gone from the Novitiate for more than 24 consecutive hours, or we would have to restart the entire canonical year (1 calendar year plus 1 day) all over again!

Another place we got to see was Trappist Kentucky.  It was really a hot day.  Our “Minister” had originally been a Trappist monk, but, because of health problems he had to leave.  However, because he had originally been a Trappist monk, all of the Novices got the “cook's tour” of most of the monastery buildings.  Most interesting.

Bottom Line:
Yes, I did "survive" the very strict, rigorous, rigid life of the Novitiate
to go on to the Scholasticate as indicated in the above photograph.
(One Novice was kicked out and another Novice left - both about 3 months after becoming Novices)

Above Photo is of my pre-Vatican 2 Seminary Classmates
Posing with Clergy and Religious Superiors after making our Religious Profession

N.B.  I rarely had a camera during my years in the MAJOR Seminary.
Therefore, pictures of my years in the MAJOR Seminary are extremely rare
and were usually group photos done by a professional photographer
as is the case of the two photographs in this section on Seminaries!

The Scholasticate & The Theologate

Seminarians had to have their desk and ceiling room lights off and be in bed by 10:45p.m. and were up by 4:30a.m. in the Theologate, except on Sundays we got to sleep in an extra half an hour.  Plus there was always the siesta which varied according to the Seminary and the day from 30 minutes up to a full hour on Sundays.

Strict silence was always maintained, with the exceptions noted below, so that we could either talk with God, or listen to God's inspirations, or to study, or to do whatever our homework was which always took at least three to four hours every day, sometimes even longer.  The total time we were in the Chapel varied by the Seminary and the day from about five hours in the Novitiate to about 3 hours in the Scholasticate and about 2 hours in the Theologate.


Claretian Scholasticate, a.k.a. Claretville
Classrooms and Chapel were on the First Floor

Not only in the Novitiate, but also in the Scholasticate, there was a specific schedule for all of us to follow, called the “horarium”.  In addition to the study of Scholastic Philosophy, there were many additional subjects to study.  I also ended up on the book-binding department where I learned how to rebind old books.  I also took an additional, non-required class, in a special Saturday morning class, on the History of the Catholic Liturgy, especially the Mass.


Claretian Theologate, a.k.a. Claretian House of Studies

Likewise, in the Theologate, there was a specific schedule all of us had to follow, called the “horarium”.   Throughout all of my years in the MAJOR Seminary, everyone was always awakened with “Deo Gratias et Mariae” (Thanks be to God and Mary), to which all of us had to respond: “Semper Deo Gratias et Mariae” (Always give thanks to God and Mary).

In the Scholasticate and Theologate, all of the Seminarians had tiny private rooms, called “cells” which consisted of a bed, a desk, a chair, a sink, an alarm clock, and a closet.  All of us took turns, each for one full week, in community order, going from room to room and knocking on each door to awaken our fellow Seminarians with “Deo Gratias et Mariae” (Thanks be to God and Mary).  We had to wait for the response:  “Semper Deo Gratias et Mariae” (Always give thanks to God and Mary).

IF we did not get a response, we had to report this to the Priest who was in charge of the Students, called the “Prefect of Students” who then had to find another Priest, and together, the two of them would go to check on the Seminarian to see if he was alive (usually either sick or extremely tired) or dead (which never happened to me in my Seminary days).

Seminarians were absolutely forbidden to ever enter the room of another Seminarian - for any reason.

Anyone who did this would be expelled from the Seminary immediately!

There would never even be a shadow of any doubt about anyone being a homosexual.

Except for only a very few times between getting up and going to bed, all Seminarians were required to observe absolute silence at all times.

This was true of all Seminarians, not just Novices.  In other words, this included the Scholastics (Seminarians who studied Scholastic Philosophy for four years).  It also included the Theologians (Seminarians who studied Theology for four years).

While on the subject of time, it should be noted that before Synod V-2 (Vatican 2), a Seminarian who was a Scholastic could only become a Theologian after he successfully completed the full four years of the study of Scholastic Philosophy.

This means that the total minimal time for a MAJOR Seminarian to be in the MAJOR Seminary, which went from becoming a Postulant to graduating as a Theologian and being Ordained to the Holy Catholic Priesthood, was 9 1/2 years from beginning to end.  After Priestly Ordination, there was one more year required to study Pastoral Theology.  This makes it 10 1/2 years of total time for a Claretian Seminarian to be in the Seminary before being given their first ministerial assignment as a Priest, whether being sent to a parish in the U.S., or to a foreign mission, or something else, e.g. working on the two magazines the Claretians published which were called "The Voice of Saint Jude", which after V-2 was changed to "U.S. Catholic", and a smaller magazine which focused on devotion to Our Blessed Mother, etc.

But insofar as all of the other Religious Orders/Congregations were concerned, with some of them the time was even longer.  For example, the Jesuits had a two year Novitiate, after Postulancy and before becoming a Scholastic, and then one additional full year of Novitiate after their Priestly Ordination.  Bottom line, Jesuit Seminarians spent a total of well over 12 years in their Seminaries.

Not only in the Novitiate, but also in the Scholasticate and in the Theologate, after being awakened, the Seminarians had only 20 minutes to shower, shave, and otherwise take care of our personal grooming, etc. before we had to be in the Chapel for a half hour for Morning Prayers, followed by a full hour for Meditation, followed by Mass, then about a half hour for Thanksgiving after Mass, followed by breakfast.


Seminarians Serving the Private Masses
Offered by the Priest-Instructors who Lived in the Seminary

Then came our first class of the day, to be followed by a number of other one hour classes throughout the day.  A half hour before the Noon lunch we were in the Chapel for our fore-noon prayers of about 10 minutes which was followed by about 20 minutes of public Spiritual Reading.

Following Community Order (This Order was the rank of each Seminarian and was usually based upon the date of birth of each Seminarian, with the oldest Seminarian having the first rank, followed by the second oldest Seminarian, etc.), the Seminarians took turns, each turn lasting one full week, of publicly reading to everyone in the Chapel from the book the Prefect of Students (in the Novitiate it was the Novice Master) had selected in advance.  After the Prefect of Students (in the Novitiate it was the Novice Master) gave the signal (the signal was a small hand-size bell that was rung), the Seminarian ended the public reading.  Then we had Noon prayers of about 5 to 10 minutes after which we silently went to the Refectory to have lunch.

The procedure in the Refectory was always the same for Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

All of the Seminarians, proceeded by their Religious Superior, the Prefect of Students, and all of the Priest-Instructors would silently file into the Refectory.  Then the Liturgical Prayers before Meals, which are in the Breviary, were said, with the respective alternating parts - the Versicle being said by the Religious Superior (in the Novitiate it was the Novice Master), and the Responsory (Response) being said by all of the other Priests, along with all of the Seminarians.

At the conclusion of these prayers - all in Latin, of course - all would sit at their respective tables, following rank order, of course.  Then, while several Seminarians (this was done by the first group of the first 5 Seminarians for one full week, followed by the next group of 5 Seminarians, all done by community order, of course) would bring out the bowls of food and set them on the tables, always beginning first with the head table at which the Religious Superior, the Prefect of Students, and all of the Priest-Instructors sat, and then the next group of tables at which the Seminarians of the highest community order rank sat, etc., etc.  For Breakfast only coffee was served to drink (this meant I had nothing to drink since I do not drink coffee), except on Sundays when there was also a small juice glass filled with orange juice.  For Lunch and Dinner Pitchers of water and milk were provided for each table.


Catholic University of America
Washington, D.C.

All Fridays were, of course, meatless.  I remember Fridays at the Theologate how we only had "tuna dogs" to eat along with bread.  They looked like hot dogs.


Catholic University of America
Washington, D.C.
Chemistry Building, a.k.a. Maloney Hall

Back in those days, there over 300 Religious Houses and Monasteries within walking distance of the Catholic University of America, the chemistry building of which was directly across the street (Michigan Avenue) from the back of our Theologate - House of Studies.


Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
It is in the North Eastern part of Washington, D.C.
in an area that used to be called "Little Rome"
Because back in those days there were over 300 Religious Houses and Monasteries
Which were in walking distance of it and
CU - Catholic University - where many Students took Classes


Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
It is on the left (West) side of the Catholic University of America
Gibbons Hall of the
Catholic University of America is on the right (East) side in this photo

The Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception is on the same grounds as the Catholic University of America, on the far West side of the University.

To give you an idea of how "tuna dogs" tasted, because of the over 300 Religious Houses and Monasteries within walking distance of the Catholic University of America, the "back door" of the kitchens of all of these Religious Houses always had a line of homeless people - in those days they were only older men (some people called them "bums" or "transients) - waiting for any leftovers.

Everyday our Seminary had a few leftovers which our cooks, who were Claretian Nuns and had their Convent next door to our Seminary, gave out to these unfortunate men.  But there was one exception!  The very first friday on which our Nuns gave our few leftover "tuna dogs" to these homeless men, that very next friday - surprise! surprise!  - there was nobody at the "back door" of our Seminary kitchen wanting our leftover "tuna dogs"!!!

So this should give you a tiny idea of how these "tuna dogs" tasted?!  Not even the hungry, homeless men wanted the "tuna dogs" all of us - Priests and Seminarians - had to eat!!!  In other words, our "tuna dogs" became our year round Lenten "penance"!

Now while all of this was happening, namely after the Liturgical Prayers Before Meals (in Latin, from the Breviary, which are rather long) were concluded, and after everyone, except the food servers had sat down, again following community order, one of the Seminarians would read from several different books while everyone else was eating.  This Seminarian would eat after everyone else left the Refectory after the long Liturgical Prayers After Meals was concluded.

Because the Refectory in the Theologate was a relatively large room, just as the Refectory in the Scholasticate had also been a relatively large room, the podium at which the Seminarian stood in the Theologate, which was to the right of the head table at which the Priests sat, was equipped with a microphone (there was no microphone, if I remember correctly, in the Scholasticate), the volume control of which was sometimes another "penance".

In any event, as at all meals, there was total silence, except for the sound of dishes, silverware, and the Seminarian who was reading at the podium.  Now in the Novitiate, in the Scholasticate, and most especially in the Theologate, there was one Priest at the head table who was in charge of correcting the Seminarian who was doing the public reading to everyone in the Refectory.

This Priest had a small bell which he would use to have the Reader pause while he, the Priest in charge of correcting errors, would publicly correct the Seminarian who had just mispronounced a word.  Then the Seminarian would have to repeat the pronunciation the correcting Priest used, and then return to what he had been reading and this time begin with the last sentence in which the mispronounced word was and then read that sentence, with the correct pronunciation of the previously mispronounced word, and then continue on reading from there.

Unfortunately, not all of the Seminarian-Theologians had English for their native language because four of them were from Spain and had known only Spanish before being sent to the U.S.  However, they were give time to practice their public reading in advance (just as were all of the native English-speaking Seminarians), and therefore, all in all, I thought they did a remarkable job pronouncing the English.  As a matter of fact, the bell was rung more often for some of the native English-speaking Seminarians.

I remember when it was my turn, I would very carefully read aloud the entire section of the reading material (which was always different for each of the three meals) which I timed.

I never had the bell rung, even once for me (actually not even one time period, whether in the Novitiate, the Scholasticate, or the Theologate), although I thought for sure it would be rung many times when I had to read one article from a religious magazine which had a long quotation in it that was all in French!

I remember reading that French quotation aloud over and over in my practice time in my private room.  I was not satisfied with my pronunciation at all and so I just - as I always did for everything - asked the good God for His help, especially God the Holy Ghost.

To put this into a proper perspective, several months before then, the recreation room in the Theologate had a record player in it.  It had a set of records on how to learn Spanish and how to learn French.  As it turned it, I had been listening to both sets of records during our longer recreation times on Saturdays and Sundays, part of which could be used for study if we wanted to study.  I was also going to a class in Spanish being taught by one of our Priests at the Theologate.

But, I was not so fortunate with the French.  Yet, I had been trying to carefully listen to the proper pronunciation of French on the records, following the large booklet that came with the French-speaking record set.  Apparently my concentration and memory were better than I realized because, to make a long story short, after I had finished reading the entire quotation in French publicly at the podium in the Refectory, the mispronunciation bell had not been rung, not even one time!  I can not take any credit for any of this - it was only by God's help that I was able to do it - and I always give total credit to God for all of this, not just the French, but for everything I did in all of my years in the MAJOR Seminary, including, but not limited to, all of my public reading.

I remember afterwards, during a recreation period, one of the 4th year Theologians came up to me and told me that both he and his other three Spanish Seminarians were very surprised of how, when shortly after they first arrived at the Theologate, and the bell was rung for other Seminarians, how none of the other Seminarians, and none of the Priests, would laugh at the reader who made a pronunciation mistake.  He told me that in the Seminary from which he had come in Spain, every time a Seminarian would incorrectly pronounce a word, everyone would laugh at him.  All four of them were very impressed with how all of the American Priests and Seminarians never laughed, not even once, at any pronunciation error, or any other dumb mistakes that readers sometimes inadvertently make.


The Holy Constitutions

Archbishop-Elect, Saint Anthony Mary Claret wrote the CONSTITUTIONS
for this Religious Congregation between 1849 and 1850.
But it was not until 1857 that they were printed along with some additions.


The First Page of the Holy Constitutions

Not only in the Novitiate, but also in the Scholasticate and in the Theologate, the rule of strict silence was always followed.  IF anyone broke this rule, it had to be confessed in Confession, as was the case with any/all of the other Rules that might be broken.  One of the things my fellow Novices and myself had to study and to learn very well were all of the many Rules of our Religious Congregation.

Therefore, under normal conditions, Seminarians who were Scholastics and Theologians were very well versed with the Rules, called the "Holy Constitutions", written in Latin, of course.


The Code of Added Law


The First Page of the Code of Added Law

Today the additions are to be found in book form under the title: CODEX IRUIS ADDITICII (Code of Added Law) Pro Missionariis Congregationis Filiorum Immaculati Cordis B.M.V., Capitulorum et Superiorum Generalium Auctoritate Vigentis. The edition before me was printed by Editorial Coculsa, Paseo de Rosales, 48 dpdo., Matriti, in 1953 and contains 382 pages, bound, with a light gray paper cover, about 4 1/4 inches wide and about 6 1/4" long, the front cover of which is shown above.

The only exceptions to the strict Rule of Total Silence included:

1)  Responses to prayers in the Chapel (e.g. when serving Mass; Rosary; other community prayers that required responses; in the Novitiate - the Chanting of the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary).
2)  In the Classroom (e.g. responses to prayers before and after class, asking questions during class or otherwise speaking to the teacher before, during, or after class).

3)  In the Refectory (e.g. responses to the Liturgical Prayers Before and After Meals; the public reader who was the Seminarian who read aloud, publicly, during each of the three meals, from the podium).

4)  During Recreation.

5)  When performing one's assigned cleaning/maintenance duties (e.g. when it was necessary to communicate in order to get the job done correctly, efficiently, etc.).

6)  When your Religious Superior, your Prefect of Students, your Priest-Instructor spoke with you outside of class.

7)  When going to Confession.

8)  When you took your turn as the Porter, i.e. when anyone came to the front door of the Seminary and you were on duty that week to answer the front door.  (Telephone calls were usually answered by a certain Priest who was assigned to do it.  Seminarians were not permitted access to make telephone calls, except in case of emergency, or in case of a Parent calling the Seminarian - e.g. when I was in the Scholasticate, my Mother called to tell me that her Mother, my Maternal Grandmother, had died, and she was asking me for prayers for her Soul. My Religious Superior had taken the call in his Office and had sent another Seminarian to find me, which he did.  My Religious Superior was present during the entire phone call in his Office which was very brief.)

9)  If a visitor, usually a Priest, asked you a question or spoke with you about a certain matter which was in your competence to answer.

10) If you were on an authorized short trip outside the Seminary - you had to take one other Seminarian with you - always had to go in two's, never by yourself except in very rare cases (e.g. when I was in the Novitiate, one time all of us were invited to a private home for dinner.

When I was in the Theologate, I was permitted to go downtown Washington, D.C. to the U.S. Capitol to see Congress and the Senate in action.  I remember seeing Senator John F. Kennedy on the floor of the U.S. Senate.  Of course, this was some time before he was elected U.S. President.

I could also go to some of the national monuments, the Smithsonian, and the National Gallery of Art, and the National Archives.

I also went to the Pontifical Mass of Richard Cardinal Cushing at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception for President Kennedy the very same morning of his inauguration.

After that, I went downtown, by city bus, along with one of my classmates, to witness the actual inauguration of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy and almost froze my feet because of standing on what had been a lot of snow (the night before there was a blizzard!) but which had been packed down by many people walking on it and turning it to ice.

That was when the inauguration was held on the front side of the U.S. Capitol - the side that faces the U.S. Supreme Court building.

I also went to the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, just across the street, with one of our Priests who Offered Mass in the crypt, specifically in the Chapel of the Confessionals, on every First Saturday of the month, and I was always his Mass-Server.  He had chosen me because he like the way I served Mass.).

11)  When it was your turn to go around knocking on the door of each cell to wake up that Seminarian with “Deo Gratias et Mariae” (Thanks be to God and Mary).

The afternoon also had two, one hour classes, followed by one hour of study time, followed by the assigned cleaning or maintenance duties on Saturdays which was different because there were usually no classes on Saturdays, although I took an extra Saturday morning class in the Scholasticate, that was not required, on the study of the Liturgy, especially the history of the Mass, Sacramental Theology regarding the Mass and Sacraments, etc.

We then had dinner which was followed by an hour of recreation which was followed by evening devotions which consisted of the Rosary and, on Sundays, Solemn Vespers and Compline, followed by a Sermon by the Religious Superior, and then Benediction.  After which came more study time, followed by Night Prayers at 9:30p.m. which lasted for 20 minutes, and was followed by study time until it was time for lights out and to be in bed.

I remember when I was taking classes in Koine Greek (the Greek in which the New Testament was originally written), I would frequently fall asleep studying it and then wake up on the morning, still wearing all of my clothes, even my shoes were still on, laying width-way on the bed, with both of my feet on the floor, and with my Greek Grammar book as a "pillow" under my head.  Some of my classmates told me that they thought the reason I got straight A's in Greek was because of osmosis, from using my Greek Grammar as a "pillow"!

There are many, many other things I could mention, but hopefully you get somewhat of an idea of what life was like in my MAJOR Seminary before the changes?

AFTER the changes, I visited the 4-storied (4 floors) Theologate in Washington, D.C.  Some of my fellow classmates were now Priests living in the Theologate and did some teaching at the Catholic University or counseling at various mental institutions in the area, helped some of the local parishes, etc.  Of course we knew each other, so I had no problem getting the “cook's tour” of the Theologate.

After I left the Theologate, I felt as if I had to vomit!!!  The Holy Constitutions (the Rules) that we had to follow when I was in the Seminary had been gutted of almost all discipline and Spirituality!

Because of Vatican 2 and its aftermath, the Seminarians could now have “parties” in each other’s private rooms, there was a TV in every Seminarian’s room, silence was a thing of the past, there was no requirement to wear the official Religious Habit of the Congregation, they were wearing only secular clothes - which in the "old days" we used to wear only for doing our cleaning chores - plus all kinds of newspapers and magazines laying around the room, and, although I do not remember anymore on this point, they might have also even had a telephone in each room?!

The Chapel was not recognizable - it was a typical Novus Ordo Rite perversion!

I simply could not finish the “tour”, I had to leave that mansion of Modernism as fast as I could!


Front Entrance of the Former Claretian Theologate,
a.k.a. Claretian House of Studies. Washington, D.C.

Please note a mosaic plaque on the wall by the front steps.  It is the Claretian Coat of Arms in the center of the red circle.  The red line going to the right shows you a close up of this mosaic on the wall which mosaic has been enhanced.

The red down line shows you what the Claretian Coat of Arms looks like.  It is Saint Michael the Archangel behind a shield on which is the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  The Latin Inscription in English is:  "Her Sons shall rise up to call her Blessed."  It seems ironic that this plaque of the Claretian Coat of Arms has never been removed despite the fact that the Claretians sold this building some years ago!

Some years later I learned that this Theologate had been sold to some secular company, as had the Convent our Nuns had lived in (they did the cooking for our Priests and all of us Seminarians when I lived in the Theologate many years before that) which nunnery was torn down and replaced with a Holiday Inn Motel!

All of the Seminarians who were Scholastics and Theologians had been sent to live in a large hotel in Saint Louis, Missouri, run by Jesuits, who taught them and whoever else, the heresies of Synod Vatican 2!

Pre-Vatican 2 Roman Catholic MAJOR Seminaries

In summary, when I was in the pre-Vatican 2 MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminary, I was given to understand that everything they did was what had always been done in MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminaries in the United States.

I was also given to understand that it was also the same in Western Europe since shortly after the decrees of the Nineteenth Œcumenical Council, the First Synod of Trent - [Thursday, December 13, 1545 A.D. - Wednesday, December 4, 1563 A.D.] were put into place and obeyed with but perhaps a few very minor variations.

However, this was not quite true I discovered later.  Why not?

A few examples:

Part of the Constitution of the Catholic Church had been radically changed by Synod Vatican 1 [Wednesday, December 8, 1869 A.D. - Monday, July 18, 1870 A.D.] with the absolute law of the Council of Trent, as well as the required Profession of the Catholic Faith, especially concerning the "unanimous consensus" of the Fathers of the Catholic Church, being flushed down the toilet, along with the nuclear mushroom cloud packed with the toxic waste of the mountains of the Mortal Sins of wholesale Perjury for the Pope, the Cardinals, and all but the 102 faithful Bishops, who publicly and blatantly broke their Solemn Oath - their Solemn Oath was obviously meaningless to these hundreds and hundreds of perjured liars against the Truth!?

The next really big change was to the Liturgical Books, i.e. to the Missal, the Breviary, the Little Office, the Ritual, the Pontificale, etc. in 1944.  What happened?

The venerable Psalter, i.e. all of the Psalms of David which had been translated into Latin by Saint Jerome, a.k.a. Eusebius Hieronymus, a.k.a. Sophronius [b. Stridon, Dalmatia c. 340 A.D. - d. Bethlehem, Palestine, Wednesday, September 30, 420 A.D.], Doctor of the Catholic Church, along with the rest of the entire Bible of both the Old and New Testaments, this Latin Vulgate Psalter had been thrown out and replaced by a questionable different Latin version of the Psalms.

The historical facts are these:

Father Augustin Bea, S.J., the future Augustin Cardinal Bea, S.J. [b. at Riedböhringen, Germany on Saturday, May 28, 1881 - d. at Rome, Italy on Saturday, November 16, 1968], and “super-ecumenist”, was the confessor of Pope Pius XII, Eugenio Pacelli [Thursday, March 2, 1939 - Thursday, October 9, 1958].  He was involved with Pius XII's first liturgical reform, the new liturgical translation of the Psalms, which replaced that of Saint Jerome’s Vulgate, so disliked by the Protestants because the Vulgate was the official translation of the Holy Scripture in the Roman Catholic Church and declared to be authentic by the Nineteenth Œcumenical Council, the First Synod of Trent - [Thursday, December 13, 1545 A.D. - Wednesday, December 4, 1563 A.D.].

“6. You are surely well aware that this Apostolic See has always made careful provision for the schooling of the people committed to its charge in the correct spirit and practice of the liturgy; and that it has been no less careful to insist that the sacred rites should be performed with due external dignity. In this connection We ourselves, in the course of our traditional address to the Lenten preachers of this gracious city of Rome in 1943, urged them warmly to exhort their respective hearers to more faithful participation in the eucharistic sacrifice. Only a short while previously [i.e. before the Lent of 1943], with the design of rendering the prayers of the liturgy more correctly understood and their truth and unction more easy to perceive, We arranged to have the Book of Psalms, which forms such an important part of these prayers in the Catholic Church, translated again into Latin from their original text.[8]  Footnote # 8.  Cf. Apostolic Letter (Motu Proprio) In Cotidianis Precibus, Saturday, March 24, 1945 (AAS 37, 1945; pp. 65-67).”  (Pope Pius XII, Eugenio Pacelli [Thursday, March 2, 1939 - Thursday, October 9, 1958], Encyclical, Mediator Dei, On the Sacred Liturgy, Thursday, November 20, 1947, ¶ 6.)

What is interesting is that the Apostolic Letter (Motu Proprio) “In Cotidianis Precibus”, Saturday, March 24, 1945, to which Pius XII refers on Thursday, November 20, 1947 in his Encyclical, Mediator Dei, is clearly not the actual document that authorized the change.  Why?

Because in paragraph 6 of his Encyclical, Mediator Dei, Pius XII tells all of us that “Only a short while previously [i.e. before the Lent of 1943]... We ARRANGED to have the Book of Psalms.... translated again into Latin from their original text” for which act Pius XII incurred automatic excommunication of the Council of Trent!

But rather than delve into that tangent, which includes the fact that apparently no formal document was ever issued by Pius XII to do this since the whole thing was merely “arranged”, and the questionable Latin text of the Psalms ended up in the 1944 editions of all of the Liturgical Books, including the Missal, Breviary, Ritual, Pontifical, etc., the only two changes I can remember that happened when I was in the MAJOR Seminary was another Pius XII fiasco - the destruction of the Holy Week Liturgy - for which Pius XII was again automatically excommunicated in virtue of the Papal Bulla Quo Primum Tempore [Tuesday, July 14, 1570 A.D.] by Pope Saint Pius V, Antonio-Michele Ghislieri [Friday, January 7, 1566 - Monday, May 1, 1572] which forbids any changes to the Missal!!!

The second change was the implementation, on January 1, 1961, of new rubrics for the Missal and Breviary on Monday, July 25, 1960 by  the 2nd Pope John 23, Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli [Tuesday, October 28, 1958 - Monday, June 3, 1963] which included, among other things,  the omission of the Communion Confiteor and the omission of the Last Gospel which originally had been inserted to identify Albigensian heretics among the Clergy because these heretics do not believe in the Divinity of Christ and thus could not, in conscience, recite the beginning of the Gospel of Saint John!  Throwing out this Last Gospel was the red flag that ushered in born-again Albigensian heretics among the Bishops and Priests of the Vatican 2 church!

The special lectures I had been attending in the evening - which was one of many such events (other events included such things as stage plays put on by some of the students of the Catholic University - one of which was "Barabbas" and another - a comedy - about Jackie Kennedy - who had just moved into the White House after the inauguration of her Husband, President JFK) that occurred during the time I was at our Theologate which was just across the street from the Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C., a.k.a. “Little Rome” because of over 300 Religious Monasteries and Religious Houses of Men and Women in walking distance to the Catholic University - after regular classes were over, on the forthcoming Vatican 2 Synod, had focused on a variety of subjects, one being a series on the history of Œcumenical Councils, another on the famous leaders at different Councils, but nothing at all about any changes, except perhaps in an extremely vague manner.

As I remember it, based upon my own personal experiences, the changes in MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminaries before Synod Vatican 2 tended to be somewhat subtle.

Please keep in mind that being in Washington, D.C., most Seminarians had contact with Seminarians from other Religious Monasteries and Houses of Study from many different Religious Congregations (this was where I lived).  Almost all Seminarians from Monasteries of Religious and the Houses of Study of many Religious Congregations attended classes at the Catholic University.


Dominican Monastery
Across the Street from CU - Catholic University

Because many of the Seminarians from many of the Monasteries of Religious and the Houses of Study of many Religious Congregations attended classes at the Catholic University, it was only natural that the Seminarians would develop personal friendships with the Seminarians from other Monasteries and Religious Congregations.

So the following story, claiming to be true, came about shortly after it is claimed that it happened.  It was begun by several Dominican Seminarians attending classes at the Catholic University.

Here is their alleged story.

Late one night, their Abbot called upon them to make a very special hair shirt for a very important person.  Although they were most probably told not to mention this episode to anyone, one or more of them did, and it spread all over the Catholic University of America campus like wild-fire!


A Cilice or Hair Shirt made of Coarse Material

Historically, most Monasteries normally have always had various items to be used for extraordinary penances and/or self-mortification - today they must be used with only the approval and supervision of their Spiritual Director(s) - which include a variety of whips, chains, and what are called "hair shirts", or "sackcloth" in the Bible.

A "hair shirt" usually does not have sleeves and is usually not open in the front or back or on the sides, only on the bottom and the top with room enough to be put over the head of the wearer.  It can be made from a variety of various coarse material or animal skin which still has the fur attached, e.g. a goat.  The fur on a cilice or a hair-shirt is worn next to the skin and causes the skin to become irritated with almost every movement that is made by the person who wears it.

As for who this very important person was, to whom it was personally delivered by either the Abbot or an older Monk, in the very early morning hours at the White House - it turns out that President Kennedy, as the story goes, had called the Abbot of this Dominican Monastery and requested a hair shirt for himself as fast as they could make a special one for him!  Apparently what made it so special was that they were instructed to use the longest fur they had for making this special "Presidential" hair shirt!

Was this story true, or just someone having a "joke"?

In those day, no one made "jokes" or made up "stories" about such things!  The subject matter was much too serious for that.  Remember, this was back in the days before Synod Vatican 2!!!  Seminarians, especially 1st through 4th Year Theologians, should have already developed a very strong and deep Spiritual Life, most especially the Dominicans back in those days because then they still followed the Rule of Saint Dominic!

I always took the position that the story was true - after all, Truth is stranger than fiction, and based upon the mentality of all of the Seminarians I personally knew in those days, I can categorically state that not one of them ever came up with any kind of "story" about any public figure.

The only "stories" I ever remember any of them talking about, primarily because it was a really hot issue on campus at the Catholic University of America, was the "wacko" Fr. Charles E. Curran [b. on March 30, 1934] who taught moral theology at CUA (Catholic University of America).  Last I heard of him, he was at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas, as the Elizabeth Scurlock Professor of Human Values.

Charles Curran was ordained a Priest in Rome in 1958 at the age of only 24 (this is an extremely young age for anyone to be Ordained to the Priesthood) for the Diocese of Rochester, New York.

As a young priest, he was a peritus (expert!!!) at the Freemasonic, Communist, Modernist-controlled Synod Vatican 2.

I understand he was fired at least twice from his tenured position at Catholic University of America, the first time in 1967 for his views on birth control, but was reinstated after a five-day faculty-led strike.  He was again fired by CUA in 1986 after the Vatican declared that although he was again a tenured professor, he could no longer teach theology at the Catholic University of America because of a decision by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith which stated that Curran "was neither suitable nor eligible to be a professor of Catholic theology" (Curran, Loyal Dissent: Memoirs of a Catholic Theologian,  Georgetown University Press, Washington, D.C., 2006).

I have to wonder WHO he knew that was able to get him pushed ahead of thousands of other Seminarians to get Ordained a Priest at the very early age of only 24?!

WHO got him his tenured position as a teacher at the Catholic University of America after his Ordination in 1958?

WHO saw to it that this young priest was identified as a peritus (expert!!!) at the Freemasonic, Communist, Modernist-controlled Synod Vatican 2???

WHOEVER this person was, apparently he could no longer promote him or keep him from being condemned by the Vatican Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, because not only was Curran condemned, as a direct result of this condemnation, he was again fired from his tenured position by the Catholic University of America!

The bottom line is that Curran was too blatant in his heresies, too vocal, too public, and too contentious even for the Freemasonic, Communist, Modernist-controlled Vatican!!!

Does this not have all of the so-called "ear-marks" of a Communist infiltrator who was eventually put in his place by his "handlers" who obviously thought he was out of control??

In any event, this is why, with good reason, many of the Seminarians were talking about this heretic on campus, about 4 years, or so, before Synod Vatican 2 began!  He was obviously being "protected" by someone in the Vatican in a very high position, because anyone else, so it seemed to many of the Seminarians on the CUA campus, would have been fired at the first hint of heresy!  Remember, this was back in the days before the wholesale subtle heresies and apostasy of Synod Vatican 2!!!

The students who went to CUA included not only Seminarians, i.e. students who were studying for the Holy Priesthood, but also various Religious Orders and Religious Congregations of Nuns and Sisters who also attended classes at the Catholic University.

As a kind of footnote here:  There is a very sad, tragic story of something of which I no longer remember all of the details, but I still do remember the basics.  One day, after classes at CUA, a Religious Nun was killed by a vehicle of some kind.

All she was doing was standing on the sidewalk in front of the Catholic University, along with a large group of other Nuns and students from the Catholic University.  She was waiting for a city bus to take her back to her Monastery or Convent when some out of control car or truck ran up onto the sidewalk and struck and killed her.

As I remember it, no one else in this large group of students was killed.  It was kind of scary because, even though I did not stand exactly at that same place waiting for a bus, because I could walk just a few blocks back to the Theologate, there were many times before then that I had chosen to cross the street there at that traffic signal which was just a few feet from where that poor Nun was killed.  After that terrible accident, I chose a different place to cross Michigan Avenue to return "home" to the Theologate.

Fortunately, I was out of the Seminary when the really big changes in the MINOR and MAJOR Roman Catholic Seminaries became much more blatant, open, and obvious, a tiny part of which I have already mentioned above, especially about Charles Curran, about when years later visited the Theologate in Washington, D.C., and also about what the above author of the MINOR Seminary partial expose so loudly laments.

A few changes began before Synod Vatican 2 because of the changes of Monday, July 25, 1960 made by  the 2nd Pope John 23, Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli.  During V-2 more changes began to come out.  After V-2 the floodgates began to open up and still remain open today!

Some of my fellow Seminarians, who either graduated or left some years later, told me how all of our Priest-instructors were supposed to take “classes” to be “retrained” in what to teach and how to teach.  But because none of them had yet gone through any of this “retraining”, a.k.a. brainwashing, process, they were all bused from our Seminary that was in Southern California to a much larger Seminary about an hour away where all of the Priest-instructors had been already “retrained” (brainwashed) with the heresy of Modernism!

In plain English, what most Priest-instructors had taught my classmates and myself as unchangeable doctrine during the preceding years, was now suddenly said were errors and mistakes, because even before Synod Vatican 2, the Catholic Traditional unchangeable doctrinal teachings were being gradually and slowly changed!

The bottom line is this: all Priest-instructors and their Seminarians were forced to unlearn Scholastic Philosophy, Thomistic Theology, Liturgy, Moral Theology, Doctrinal Theology, Ascetical Theology, Mystical Theology, etc., etc. much of which had been taught in Seminaries since at least the days of the Council of Trent!!!

All of this Catholic Traditional Teaching and Catholic Traditional Doctrines were illegally replaced primarily by Synod Vatican 2 which was characterized by three Council Fathers in these unequivocal terms:

“[Synod Vatican 2 was] the greatest disaster in recent ecclesiastical history” (Giuseppe Cardinal Siri [b. Sunday, May 20, 1906 in Genoa, Italy - d. Tuesday, May 2, 1989], Archbishop of Genoa, Italy, from “Pontiff”, p. 369 - Gordon Thomas/Max Morgan Witts).

Synod Vatican 2 was “a sinister farce acted out by three thousand good-for-nothings, some of whom, despite the gold [pectoral] crosses on their chests, don’t even believe in the Trinity or the Virgin” (Bishop Antonio Romeo of the Sacred Congregation of Rites in Bob Considine’s column ON THE LINE in the NEW YORK JOURNAL AMERICAN of Friday, November 27, 1964).

“I pray to God that I may die before the end of the council -- in that way I can die a Catholic” (Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani, June 1962, Cardinal Prefect of the Supreme Holy Office, following a speech by Cardinal Montini  - the future Paul VI - on the need for changes in the Church).

Anyone - whether a Priest-instructor or a Seminarian - who held to the authentic Apostolic Tradition was ostracized and considered to be mentally challenged.

As a result, I have often wondered how many older Priests, and even some Bishops, either committed suicide or died of a broken heart or suddenly become homeless???  Years later, I learned this actually did happen to many Priests, Religious Brothers, Religious Nuns & Sisters in Canada where, at least when I visited there some years ago, none of them wore their Religious Habits in public on the streets, and none of the Priests wore even as much as a black suit and/or a clerical shirt with a Roman Collar, and many of them - so I was told - had been literally thrown out of their Religious Houses, Convents, Hospitals, Schools, and Rectories by the Canadian Government, becoming instantly homeless!

Synod Vatican 2 and its heretical teachings and wholesale apostasy from the Catholic Church has resulted in a 45 year crime spree against the innocent, sincere, confused Catholic Faithful by Communist, Freemasonic, and Modernist Roman-Collared infiltrators which continues to cry to God for Justice!!!

Conclusion

Thus, just a very few of my own personal experiences back in what was, for the most part, the “good old days”, before most of the changes in the Roman Catholic MAJOR Seminaries.

But the "good old days" did not last, which is why I am forced to have to agree with the above author of the article on the MINOR Seminaries, where he concludes with:

“The Vatican II documents are classic modernist claptrap of the type St. Pius X condemned in Pascendi: Catholic-sounding on one page, doctrinally subversive on the next. This was method and intention of the periti [theologians] — Rahner, Schillebeeckx, de Lubac, Congar and, yes, Ratzinger [N.B. now Pope Benedict 16th]— who massaged the language of the texts as they were being written.”
“If we wish to restore the Catholic priesthood, the only ‘light’ in which we should ‘interpret’ the Vatican II documents should be that of a bonfire — in which we burn every single copy.”
Historical Statistics of over 45 Years of Planned Chaos and Destruction
“By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit” (Matthew 7:15-17).
Given the foregoing, it should be plain that the fruits of Synod Vatican 2 are rotten.  Here are some of its historically rotten fruits filled with the stench of Satanism:

From 1965 to 1973, between 22,000 and 25,000 Priests left the Priesthood.

Today, this figure has reached over 110,000.

In addition, 157,000 out of 365,000, or about 43%, of what were once Roman Catholic parishes have no resident Priest.

In 1970 there were 1,003,670 women Religious with perpetual or provisional vows; in 1992 that number was down to 655,031 (cf. “In the Murky Waters of Vatican II”, ISBN 0-89555-636-7).

The 1998 edition of the Official Catholic Directory of the Vatican 2 church in the U.S. revealed that the number of seminarians was only 1,700, a decline of almost 97% from the 1965 figure of 48,992.

In countries such as France and Holland the percentage of Catholics going to the Vatican 2 church New Mass each Sunday has declined to a single digit.  In the U.S., attendance at Vatican 2 churches has steadily declined from 71% in 1963 to 25% percent in 1993, a decrease of 65%.

Newsweek polls and surveys show that only 15% of the members of the Vatican 2 church believe they should always obey the teachings of their church.

Almost as many Vatican 2 catholics think abortion is permissible as non-Catholics, and 75% of members of the Vatican 2 church disagree with their church on what it teaches in regard to the forbidding of divorce and contraception.

Another study revealed that only 25% of Vatican 2 church “catholics”  now believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist and only 50% of Vatican 2 priests still believe in the Real Presence.

Who could possibly claim that there is not a terrible crisis of Faith, especially in what used to be Roman Catholic Churches now illegally operated and owned by the Vatican 2 church?

Such are some of the rotten fruits of the Vatican 2 church that used to be the Roman Catholic Church before it was hijacked at Synod Vatican 2 by Communist, Freemasonic, and Modernist infiltrators who should be congratulating themselves on their victory?!

In case you missed it, here are a few similar facts of how By their fruits you shall know them:


An Index of Catholicism’s Decline


A Review by Pat Buchanan

As the Watergate scandal of 1973-1974 diverted attention from the far greater tragedy unfolding in Southeast Asia, so, too, the scandal of predator-priests now afflicting the Catholic Church may be covering up a far greater calamity.

Thirty-seven years after the end of the only church council of the 20th century, the jury has come in with its verdict: Vatican II appears to have been an unrelieved disaster for Roman Catholicism.

Liars may figure, but figures do not lie. Kenneth C. Jones of St. Louis has pulled together a slim volume of statistics he has titled Index of Leading Catholic Indicators: The Church Since Vatican II.

His findings make prophets of Catholic traditionalists who warned that Vatican II would prove a blunder of historic dimensions, and those same findings expose as foolish and naive those who believed a council could reconcile Catholicism and modernity. When [2nd] Pope John XXIII threw open the windows of the church, all the poisonous vapors of modernity entered, along with the Devil himself. Here are Jones's grim statistics of Catholicism's decline:

Priests.

While the number of priests in the United States more than doubled to 58,000, between 1930 and 1965, since then that number has fallen to 45,000. By 2020, there will be only 31,000 priests left, and more than half of these priests will be over 70.

Ordinations.

In 1965, 1,575 new priests were ordained in the United States. In 2002, the number was 450. In 1965, only 1 percent of U.S. parishes were without a priest. Today, there are 3,000 priestless parishes, 15 percent of all U.S. parishes.

Seminarians.

Between 1965 and 2002, the number of seminarians dropped from 49,000 to 4,700, a decline of over 90 percent. Two-thirds of the 600 seminaries that were operating in 1965 have now closed.

Sisters.

In 1965, there were 180,000 Catholic nuns. By 2002, that had fallen to 75,000 and the average age of a Catholic nun is today 68. In 1965, there were 104,000 teaching nuns. Today, there are 8,200, a decline of 94 percent since the end of Vatican II.

Religious Orders.

For religious orders in America, the end is in sight.

In 1965, 3,559 young men were studying to become Jesuit priests. In 2000, the figure was 389.

With the Christian Brothers, the situation is even more dire. Their number has shrunk by two-thirds, with the number of seminarians falling 99 percent. In 1965, there were 912 seminarians in the Christian Brothers. In 2000, there were only seven.

The number of young men studying to become Franciscan and Redemptorist priests fell from 3,379 in 1965 to 84 in 2000.

Catholic schools.

Almost half of all Catholic high schools in the United States have closed since 1965. The student population has fallen from 700,000 to 386,000. Parochial schools suffered an even greater decline. Some 4,000 have disappeared, and the number of pupils attending has fallen below 2 million -- from 4.5 million.

Though the number of U.S. Catholics has risen by 20 million since 1965, Jones' statistics show that the power of Catholic belief and devotion to the Faith are not nearly what they were.

Catholic Marriage.

Catholic marriages have fallen in number by one-third since 1965, while the annual number of annulments has soared from 338 in 1968 to 50,000 in 2002.

Attendance at Mass.

A 1958 Gallup Poll reported that three in four Catholics attended church on Sundays. A recent study by the University of Notre Dame found that only one in four now attend.

Only 10 percent of lay religious teachers now accept church teaching on contraception.

Fifty-three percent believe a Catholic can have an abortion and remain a good Catholic.

Sixty-five percent believe that Catholics may divorce and remarry.

Seventy-seven percent believe one can be a good Catholic without going to mass on Sundays.

By one New York Times poll, 70 percent of all Catholics in the age group 18 to 44 believe the Eucharist is merely a "symbolic reminder" of Jesus.

At the opening of Vatican II, reformers were all the rage.

They were going to lead us out of our Catholic ghettos by altering the liturgy, rewriting the Bible and missals, abandoning the old traditions, making us more ecumenical, and engaging the world.

And their legacy?

Four decades of devastation wrought upon the church, and the final disgrace of a hierarchy that lacked the moral courage of the Boy Scouts to keep the perverts out of the seminaries, and throw them out of the rectories and schools of Holy Mother Church.

Through the papacy of Pius XII, the church resisted the clamor to accommodate itself to the world and remained a moral beacon to mankind. Since Vatican II, the church has sought to meet the world halfway.

Jones' statistics tell us the price of appeasement.

 

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Important Catholic Quotes for Today!

Do not heed
by whom a thing is said,
but rather what is said.
 
 

(Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P.
Letter to Brother John)

“If people are scandalized at the Truth,
it is better to allow the birth of scandal,
than to abandon the Truth”.



 
 
 
 
 

(Roman Catholic Pope Saint Gregory I, the Great, [Friday, September 3, 590 - Monday, March 12, 604], Homily on Ezechiel, 7; cited by Saint Thomas Aquinas, O.P., [b. 1225 A.D. in Rocca Secca, Naples, Italy - d. Wednesday, March 7, 1274 A.D., in Fossa Nuova, Italy], Doctor of the Church, Summa Theologica, Part II-II, Question 43, Article 7)
I am required to Teach the Truth and to warn everyone of the present evils, mindful of this warning to all Catholic Priests and Prelates:
“Do not be one of those timourous physicians who like their tranquility more than the saving of the sick... Even though Salome should dance before Herod, should ask for John's head and should obtain it from the detestable King, John's duty is to cry out: NON LICET! [It is not permitted!].”

(Bishop Saint Ivo of Chartres, a.k.a. Yves, I’ve, Yvo  [b. Beauvais, France or Auteuil, France, c. 1040 A.D. - d. Chartres, France, Tuesday, May 30, 1116 A.D.], Bishop of Chartres [1090 A.D. - Tuesday, May 30, 1116 A.D.], Letter # 24, To Bishop Hugh of Lyons, October, 1094 A.D.)

Am I then become your enemy,
because I tell you the Truth?
(Saint Paul the Apostle
Epistle to the Galatians 4:16)
 
 

Stand fast... hold the traditions.”
(Saint Paul the Apostle
2 Thessalonians 2:14)

These latter days have witnessed a notable increase in the number of the enemies of the Cross of Christ, who, by arts entirely new and full of deceit, are striving to destroy the vital energy of the Church, and, as far as in them lies, utterly to subvert the very Kingdom of Christ. 

Wherefore, We may no longer keep silence, lest We should seem to fail in Our most Sacred Duty, and lest the kindness that, in the hope of wiser counsels, We have hitherto shown them, should be set down to lack of diligence in the discharge of Our Office.
 

(Roman Catholic Pope Saint Pius X, Giuseppe Sarto [Tuesday, August 4, 1903 - Thursday, August 20, 1914], Encyclical Pascendi Dominici Gregis, On the Doctrine of the Modernists -  Sunday, September 8, 1907.)


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